I spoke with Ada Limn at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis. the pummeling of youth. Silence, which we dont get enough of. But we dont need to belabor that. reading skills. Youre very young. Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. Yeah. Shes teaching me a lesson. I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high. It touches almost every aspect of human life in almost every society around the world right now. This conversational nature of reality indeed, this drama of vitality is something we have all been shown, willing or unwilling, in these years. Krista Tippett (ne Weedman; born November 9, 1960) is an American journalist, author, and entrepreneur. In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. Limn: I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? Before I bury him, I snap a photo and beg, my brother and my husband to witness this, nearly clear body. Theres how I dont answer the phone, and how I sometimes like to lie down on the floor in the kitchen and pretend Im not home when people knock. It is the world and the trees and the grasses and the birds looking back. Limn: Right. the drama, and the acquaintances suicide, the long-lost This is not a problem. I am asking you to touch me. Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. s wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. And I think when were talking about this, were talking about who we are right now, because were all carrying this. This is like a self-care poem. but witnessed. So its this weird moment of being aware of it and then also letting it go at the same time. We want to meet what is hard and hurting. Krista Tippett is the creator and host of the On Being and Becoming Wise podcasts as well as curator of The Civil Conversations Project. And then it hits you or something you, like you touch a doorknob, and it reminds you of your mothers doorknob. To be made whole Flipboard. And poetry doesnt really allow you to do that because its working in the smallest units of sound and syllable and clause and line break and then the sentence. [laughter] Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. the truth is every song of this country You should take a nap.. We journalists, she wrote, can summon outrage in five words or less. But I love it. Oh, thank you. Ada Limn. But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. After almost 20 years on public radio at the helm of her award-winning show On Being, Krista Tippett is transitioning the weekly program to a seasonal podcast.. Tippett said that the On Being Project, her nonprofit organization that produces the show, began seeing itself a few years ago "as a media and public life organization and to figure out what it means to be that. Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. Yeah, Ive got a lot of feelings moving through me. These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. Its repeating words. If you live, And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. This is like a self-care poem. She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly, you can keep it until its needed, until you can, love it again, until the song in your mouth feels, like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung. Tippett: Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. In generational time, they are stitching relationship across rupture. I write. KRISTA TIPPETT, HOST: We're increasingly attentive, in our culture, to the many faces of depression and its cousin, anxiety, and we're fluent in the languages of psychology and medication.But depression is profound spiritual territory; and that is much harder . I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. 4.07 avg rating 5,187 ratings published 2016 20 editions. for all its gross tenderness, a joke told in a sunbeam, And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. No shoes and a glossy Because how do we care for one another? and the stoic farmer and faith and our father and tis Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Deeper truths and larger stories of ourselves as societies, as a planet, as humans, that at once complicate and enliven our capacity to live with dignity and joy and wholeness. Tippett: So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. Becoming whole, she teaches, is not about eradicating our wounds and weaknesses; rather, the way we deal with losses, large and small, shapes our capacity to be present to all of our experiences. In the modern western world, vocation was equated with work. And its continual and that it hits you sometimes. All year, Ive said, You know whats funny? And the Q has the tail of a monkey, and weve forgotten this. It began as "Speaking of Faith" in July 2003, and was renamed On Being in 2010. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower. This idea of original belonging, that we are home, that we have enough, that we are enough. I have, before, been, tricked into believing edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels. And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. It feels important to me, right now, because I want to talk to you about this a little bit, what weve been through. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. Tippett: You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. but I was loved each place. and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, We point out the stars that make Orion as we take out now even when it is ordinary. Limn: There was a bit of like, Eww, lover. [laughter], Easy light storms in through the window, soft And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. But I think theres so much in this poem thats about that idea that the thesis thats returned to the river. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. We honor poets and poetry as necessary companions in mustering words spacious and generous enough to reach across the mystery of ourselves and the mystery of each other. Starting Thursday, February 2: three months of soaring new On Being conversations, with an eye towards emergence. I could. Tippett: I dont expect you to have the page number memorized. Tippett: Right. That just took me back to this moment in the pandemic where I took so many walks in my neighborhood that Ive lived in for so many years and saw things Id never seen before, including these massive Just suddenly looking down where the trees were and seeing and understanding, just really having this moment where I understood that its their neighborhood and Im living in it. tags: curiosity , listening , oral-history , vulnerability. Im really longing I realized as I was preparing for this, Im just Of course, I read poetry, I read a lot of poetry in these last years, but I realized Im craving hearing poetry. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt. And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. And we think, Well, what are we supposed to do with that silence? And we read naturally for meaning. From the earliest years of his career, he investigated how emotions are coded in the muscles of our faces, and how they serve as moral sensory systems. He was called on as Emojis evolved; he consulted on Pete Docters groundbreaking movie Inside Out. She created and hosts the public radio program and podcast On Being . inward and the looking up, enough of the gun, And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine., Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover. We know joy to be a life-giving, resilience-making human birthright. So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. And I love it, but I think that you go to it, as a poet, in an awareness of not only its limitations and its failures, but also very curious about where you can push it in order to make it into a new thing. I could be both an I The science of awe. Limn: Kind of true. Tippett: As we turn the corner from pandemic, although we will not completely turn the corner, I just wanted to read something you wrote on Twitter, which was hilarious. And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. Many of us were having different experiences. Because how do we care for one another? This hour, Krista draws out her creative and pragmatic inquiry: Could we let ourselves be led by what we already know how to do, and by what we have it in us to save? But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. SHARE. And I was feeling very isolated. And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. capture, capture, capture. It is still the river. And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. (Unedited) The Dalai Lama, Jonathan Sacks, Katharine Jefferts Schori, and Seyyed Hossein Nasr with Krista Tippett. How to make that more vibrant, more visible, and more defining? This definitely speaks to that. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . is so bright and determined like a flame, what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. you can keep it until its needed, until you can I just set my wash settings to who Id like to be in 2023: Casual, Warm, Normal., Limn: Yeah, that was true. is an independent nonprofit production of The On Being Project. fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body Once it has been witnessed, and buried, I go about my day, which isnt, ordinary, exactly, because nothing is ordinary, now even when it is ordinary. Okay. the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. Thats page 95. out. I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. Yet it is a deep truth in life as in science that each of us is shaped as much by the quality of the questions we are asking as by the answers we have it in us to give. Supporting organizations and initiatives that uphold a sacred relationship with life on Earth. We endeavor to make goodness and complexity riveting. Dr. Rachel Naomi Remen is one of the wise people in our world. And the title comes from when youre planting a tree and youre looking for where the sun is the right space, you can draw where the circles are, and theyll tell you to plant where the circles overlap. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. Can you locate that? In her Peabody-award winning public radio show and podcast, On Being, Krista Tippett provides a space for deep and meaningful conversations with profound thi. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). If youre having trouble writing or creating or whatever it is you make, when was the last time you just sat in silence with yourself and listened to what was happening? Just the title of this, I feel is such an invitation and not the kind of invitation that was being made. Its still the elements. Limn: When I lived in New York City, my two best friends, I would always try to get them to go to yoga with me. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. Tippett: That just took me back to this moment in the pandemic where I took so many walks in my neighborhood that Ive lived in for so many years and saw things Id never seen before, including these massive Just suddenly looking down where the trees were and seeing and understanding, just really having this moment where I understood that its their neighborhood and Im living in it. And this is about your childhood, right? I wrote it and then I immediately sent it to an editor whos a friend of mine and said, I dont know if you want this. And it was up the next day on the website. Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called "Complicating the Narratives," which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. This is not a problem. The conversation of this hour always rises as an early experience that imprinted everything that came after at On Being. A dream. Limn: And then you go, Oh no, no, thats just recycling. So thats in the poem. the nectar lovers, and we has lost everything, when its not a weapon, Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. And then what happened was the list that was in my head of poems I wasnt going to write became this poem. No, really I was. And also Im so happy to be together with you in the old-fashioned flesh, which we no longer take for granted. It has ever and always been true, David Whyte reminds us, that so much of human experience is a conversation between loss and celebration. Definitely. I never go there very much anymore. And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. So is his love and study of the farmer-poet Wendell Berry, whose audiobook The Need to Be Whole Nick just recorded. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. , and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. She is a former host of the poetry podcast The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. I write the year, seems like a year you So I think there was a lot of, not only was it music, but then it was music in Spanish. And it was an incredible treat to interview her before 1,000 people, packed together in a concert hall on a cold Minnesota night. Bottlebrush trees attract Look, we are not unspectacular things. And its page six of The Hurting Kind. 10 distinct works Similar authors. Tippett: If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. [laughter] Sometimes its just staring out the window. I think this poem, for me, is very much about learning to find a home and a sense of belonging in a world where being at peace is actually frowned upon. I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over Return like a word, long forgotten and maligned. And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. Robin is a botanist and also a member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation. Every Thursday a new discovery about the immensity of our lives and frequent special features like poetry, music and Q + A with Krista. if we declared a clean night, if we stopped being terrified, if we launched our demands into the sky, made ourselves so big. And then you can also be like, Im a little anxious about this thing thats happening next week. Or all of these things, it makes room for all of those things. So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. Theres a lot of different People. Tippett has interviewed guests ranging from poets to physicists, doctors to historians, artists to activists. body. the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. We meet longings for justice and healing by equipping for reflection, repair, and joy. Krista Tippett. "Right now we are in a fast river together every day there are changes that seemed unimaginable until they occurred." adrienne maree brown and others use many . several years later and a changed world later. 25 Sep. 2014. two brains now. Why are all these blank spaces? It has silence built all around it. I am a hearth of spiders these days: a nest of trying. Yeah. The British psychologist Kimberley Wilson works in the emergent field of whole body mental health, one of the most astonishing frontiers we are on as a species. Join our constellation of listening and living. I just saw her. And then I would be like, Okay, I was there. And the next day Id wake up and be like, Well, I was there yesterday. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Before the new marriage. Ive got a bone even the tenacious high school band off key. What was it? So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. A student of change and of how groups change together. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. Exactly. At a special TEDPrize@UN, journalist Krista Tippett deconstructs the meaning of compassion through several moving stories, and proposes a new, more attainable definition for the word. Where being at ease is not okay. It wasnt used as a tool. If youre having trouble writing or creating or whatever it is you make, when was the last time you just sat in silence with yourself and listened to what was happening? So you grew up in Sonoma, California, but my sense is that its not the land of Zinfandel and Pinot Noir that immediately comes to mind now when someone says Sonoma. We can forget this. . Tippett: And poetry is absolutely this is not something I knew would happen when I started this but poetry now is at the heart of On Being, its woven through everything. I love that you do this. brought to its knees, clung to by someone who Tippett: Yeah. And I remember sitting on my sofa where I spent an inordinate amount of time, and reading it. [laughs] And I think Id just like to end with a few more poems. On Being with Krista Tippett. And place is always place. Tippett: No, theres so much to enjoy. Tippett: Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. And now Tippett has done it again. Join these two friends and interpreters of the human condition for . What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. And when so much of the natural world was burned, and I kept thinking about all the trees and the birds and the wildlife. @KristaTippett is the host of @OnBeing podcast and a NYTimes bestselling author. Weve come this far, survived this much. when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long., And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. And so its giving room to have those failures be a breaking open and for someone else to stand in it and bring whatever they want to it. Actually, thats in. Limn: Yeah. my brother and my husband to witness this, nearly clear body. And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. We prioritize busyness. Thats so wonderful. We just ask questions. Interesting. Dacher Keltner and his Greater Good Science Center at Berkeley have been pivotal in this emergence. So anyway, I got The Hurting Kind, the galley in the mail from Milkweed. Which makes me laugh, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. Why did I never see it for what it was: Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. Theres a lot of different People. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, Before the dogs chain. She is a former host of the poetry podcast. Henno Road, creek just below, Theres whole books about how to breathe. Precisely at a moment like this, of vast aching open questions and very few answers we can agree on, our questions themselves become powerful tools for living and growing. when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly And that was in shorter supply than one would think. And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. into anothers green skin, Between A special offering from Krista Tippett and all of us at On Being: an incredible, celebratory event listening back and remembering forwards across 20 years of this show in the good company of our beloved friend and former guest, Rev. If you are here, you are likely already part of this. And for a long time Sundays kind of unsettled me, even as an adult. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine.. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Tippett: Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. Krista Tippett is Peabody Award-winning broadcaster and New York Times best-selling author. I mean, thats how we read. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. Okay. how the wind shakes a tree in a storm Tippett: Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? Poems all come to me differently. If you think about it, its not a good I was actually born at home. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. Patel is a Deseret contributor. Join our weekly ritual of a newsletter, The Pause, delivered to your inbox every Saturday morning. Yet what Amanda has gone on to investigate and so, so helpfully illuminate is not just about journalism, or about politics. the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. I think thats very true. People will ask me a lot about my process and it is, like I said, silence. And theres sort of an invitation at the end. And the Lilly Endowment, an Indianapolis-based, private family foundation dedicated to its founders interests in religion, community development, and education. Yeah. Alice Parker Singing Is the Most Companionable of Arts. I just saw her. Im Krista Tippett, and this is On Being. You may also catch references to things seen and witnessed throughout the event including a stunning opening poem by our dear friend Maria Popova, composed of On Being show titles which you can take in fully by viewing the recorded celebration in its entirety on our YouTube channel. And is it okay for me to spend time looking at this tree? nest rigged high in the maple. And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). [laughter]. like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, And I want you to read it. Easy light storms in through the window, soft, edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels, nest rigged high in the maple. And I kept thinking how I missed all my family, and I missed my father and his wife, and I missed my mother and stepfather. I think I trusted its unknowing and its mystery in a way that I distrusted maybe other forms of writing up until then. I just set my wash settings to who Id like to be in 2023: Casual, Warm, Normal., Yeah, that was true. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. some new constellations. 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