Video camera is by the door for the on-site contact which will be next. What the hell was someone on Obama's team thinking about? Other than that, the sky is the limit. So, do I really need to fill this out, or can I use it to line my bird cage? Ct. 524,and it cannot be too often repeatedthat the principles that embody the essence of constitutional liberty and security forbid all invasions on the part of government and its employees of the sanctity of a mans home and the privacies of his life. After the first couple of letters I received I started getting harassing phone calls from them. He called and left a message to call him to make an appointment to fill out the form. This was mailed to me approximately three months ago. We have received 2 ACS long forms and multiple phone calls and now a front door visit. We randomly sample addresses in every state, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. I am a nurse, taxpaying honest citizen and I will not be forced into answering these obscene questions! *Respondents may Reply "Stop" to opt out of receiving text messages. Sometimes we do follow-up when we have incomplete responses to a survey, or if we have no response, at all. Perfect. "When the people fear their government there is tyranny. Help people, can I really get fined if I don't fill this crap out? When you respond to the survey, you are doing your part to ensure decisions about your community can be made using the best data available. No way was I going to submit that kind of info. I'm a stay-at-home Momma with a toddler daughter. It has been more than 40 years since that was done and they do not want any court case to be brought up that can challenge the constitutionality of their threats. This is harassment, I am no threat. I have the kind of front door that has a small window near the top and if people stand on their toes they can peek into my living room. The letter accompanying the census form indicates it's used to decide how many representatives each state has in congress, and how much money my 'neighborhood' receives from the government. To posters 190 and 191: Thank you for your input and advice. Nevertheless, fines and legal action are technically possible. They again called a few days ago and I answered. Any links included in a Census Bureau email will direct you to an official federal government website ending in .gov. The gov has lost what is called common sense and buried it under a ton of manure. Yeah right! Did the Census Bureau contact you about participating in a survey? im a normal 27 year old female, trying to live my life. but who gets the census??? I was really hoping she would stick around and argue with me some more, I was kind of of enjoying it because I knew there wasn't anything she could do. Apparently there are quite a few people who expect miracles out of thin air. Click Update Preferences to ensure the changes are applied. Our government today is so far from the Founding Father's ideals - demonstrated by the nasty face we are seeing in these examples. The present state of affairs is a direct result of our collective ignorance. The government is doing nothing wrong! What was this person's total income during the past 12 months? Section a authorizes every 10 years starting April 1. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor a paranoid, but goodness knows the intrusiveness of these questions can certainly drive a person to it. (We filled out and mailed our census form as soon as we received it.) I'm also going to contact her opponent and see if we can get some action on it for the upcoming debates. I get hourly calls during the week. Keep your posts coming! Most U.S. representatives have local offices. That seems to be the end of it, but only time will tell. I ordered him to leave and he said he would have to go get the sheriff and return. To verify that someone who has texted you is a Census Bureau field representative, you can enter their name in the Census Bureau Staff Search, a database that lists name and contact information for all Census Bureau employees. The Census Bureau would have to refer a case to the Dept of Justice, they have no power of their own. . However, the severity of the challenge varies by state and community. Please, that's where this money is going in there pockets. State citizens can help in this process by refusing to cooperate with federal demands (all of them). the census is just a way of allocating seats for elected officials and that's all. I never did get ahold of the idiot at Commerce- she sure had lots of vacation time. This is just crap. And if I were paranoid, I'd be accusing the census takers of taking my new baby's ss card that has still not arrived in my hands in four months! I have contacted all of my federal and state Representatives and it is time they passed a census privacy act. Uncle Sam gets my money but what happens in my home stays in my home. I guess all the info requested I am OK with. We are all empowered, so we need to get together to sue! Who are these people and why are they telling me I am obligated by law to provide my personal information to some one or some entity I don't know. 1. The whole purpose of the census getting shortened was to entice people to fill it out, not this 20-page crap. 1 To provide current information about employer-sponsored health . Poster 188. From the American Community Survey and your tax dollars at work. We are so far from what our forefathers prayerfully constructed as a government that it will take a real miracle from heaven for a national revival now. its no joke. As one post on this site said "bring it on.". I will not submit. However, the ACS wants to know what time my husband and I leave for work each day, our employer's address, our work location address (if different from our employer's) and if we commute via car, carpool or public transportation. He asked if I was refusing to answer the survey. It's hard to believe that a patriotic, high school social studies teacher, and law-abiding citizen, such as myself, could be compelled to suggest such civil disobedience--but here I am, and hear me loud. I didn't sleep well last night worrying how my civil disobedience might cost me dollars and jail. Point and go toward your kind of happy. --JAS. I said I did not need any help. papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated. Somewhere in the process we got some messages on the answering machine asking us to call their 800 number and refer to our "case number." And if I choose to comply, the only information they will get from me would be the number of people living in my house. Don't know if it's the "bureau" calling or not, but I'm ready for them. If they are "anonymous" why do they need my name, telephone number and race? To complete your request, you'll need to sign and return the Permanent Opt-Out Election form (which you get online) once you've started the process. He asked me about a census employee who visited my home the prior week. The second time I got a call, I followed the recommendation of a fellow patriot. Although I suspect it's really only one or two of you. First time around it ended with phone calls and then they I was given a $25 gift card at the Home Depot. They came to my door at all hours. I got the ACS forms and I am scared to be fined. They will report any threats or harassment (allegedly), so be careful how you respond to them. Help for Survey Participants. When respondents are sent surveys via email, they can choose whether to continue to fill them or ask to be removed from the list of people invited as survey respondents. In order to do that people response is required. Just had our 10th home visit from census people! I received by first survey in early December and a second one just three weeks later. The right to privacy is also inherent in many amendments to the Bill of Rights, such as the 3rd, the 4th, search and seizure and the 5th, self incrimination limit. I personally do not want to answer because it's just a habit but if they did catch me off-guard, I would probably give them an answer of some sort (like I am a boyfriend who is watching my girlfriend's house while she's away with the peace corps for six months and that I already answered the census for my home a few blocks away). I was told if I didn't answer then his supervisor would come out and if I didn't respond to his supervisor, they would return with a Larimer County Sheriff and then I would have to answer or else! Then, the phone calls started and they won't stop. If threatened with a fine or even prison, I will say, "Bring it on!" Keep being sheep. Me and my family were properly counted on census day 2010. I thought to myself, now they are going to harass them. Its about an obnoxiously intrusive survey, based on a lie about fire stations and such, done in a not so anonymous manner, by people who are often temporary workers and thus lack accountability for the privacy of the information they take. The calls/personal visits stopped. Neither one of us filled it out, nor mailed it in. I was just contacted by a representative for the Census Bureau at my home and asked to answer his questions. Then we have to vote them out. Don't be paranoid, it's only a few questions a lot of people already know about you anyway. This second survey is going right in the burner. Does this person have difficulty doing errands alone such as doctor's visits or shopping? If the enumerators cannot get this info from the Social Security Administration or the local state tax boards then there must be a reason why not! It then adds insult and temerity by threatening me for noncompliance? The Supreme Court in June rejected an attempt by the Trump administration to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, a much more sweeping and comprehensive count of the American population. No one from the Census has ever asked for your social security number - perhaps someone *posing* as a Census Field Rep. did, but not an employee of the Census. Filled out the short form minus birth dates. To all the census takers who have the nerve to put their 2 cents here to tell us how safe it is, why don't you also post your personal information for us? How many times has this person been married? You are a perfect example of why people should be outraged by the ACS. All I can think of is that every time one of us gives in and allows this servant to go unchallenged, then they get bolder, prouder, and we get used to it and then we are eventually abused by them. I suggest that people find a petition out there against this census survey. She stated that her supervisor sent her back out. My paper shredder has been complaining of hunger, so I'm going to feed the "survey" to it when I receive it in the mail next week. my wife and I pay our taxes and feel if that's not enough for our government, then "Too bad Charlie". I never will. The second visit, I handed him a sealed census envelope, and he came back and left a note that the computer kicked it out. I had never heard of such a thing. How can I verify that an in-person interviewer is a Census Bureau employee? Amazing. To get such insights, here are the steps you need to follow: Set your objectives for the survey. You want me to put the popcorn in the freezer?" Thus, they cannot use the census as the pretext for the ACS. I asked her if she had gotten a statement from my mortgage company-a release- and she found it and sent the refund. Not to mention the ethnic origin of any person on a questionnaire is profiling a house. Then we find out she is our next-door neighbor! People, look around you and see. This survey is not some spur of the moment mandate by the current administration. That went into the fire. During the last month since I received the first one, I've had many many phone calls from someone asking for my husband and saying he is from a veteran's charity. It has taken almost two decades to get it to this point where something intelligent can actually be done to manage our mess. What you'll need: A credit card. the simple census form I got had another insert in which they claim that "answers are confidential" and "answers you give cannot be obtained by law enforcement or tax collection agencies" and "your answers cannot be used in court" or obtained through a FOIA request. I did not ask for this; this is not an application for credit. The yahoos on the Hill will continue to usurp our rights. Your answers help produce accurate, reliable statistics on employment, infrastructure, education, economic opportunities, and other important characteristics of your community. Other countries pay equally and get that ever elusive socialist universal health care. I told her again that I already gave the required info by law and there is no reason to give all that other information. how the hell does she know me and what i look like, she's never been to our door yet. So glad I found this site. and they are the ones who should be paying extra taxes for that. Keep up the good fight! During the last survey I chose not to fill it out. Anyway, i thought i would turn it into something funny and started a blog. We then engaged in a bit of "palaver" in which she said that they can require us to answer any question they want because "it's in the Constitution". It is just easier for them to get it this way. Came back the very next day, and told my husband that he has full authority to open it and if we don't comply then we will be fined anywhere from $100-5000, and the marshal would be accompanying him tomorrow to arrest my husband if we don't comply. Census employees never ask for social security numbers or full financial disclosure. I will file a class action suit against the Government if they continue to harass me and hope to gain momentum in order to force the government to be liable for any information lost on their part. No need to respond to the intrusive survey. Actual enumeration is required. Non parlo inglese!" She finally walked away but now I am sleepless as a result of this because I am not certain as to what will happen next. (address, city, county, state, zip). Lock and Load. The calls started today. this person got in the building somehow! I think that I will put this in the woodstove-just don't tell the EPA or they will be here to take away my woodstove. Where is the America I grew up in? I grabbed the handle and slammed the door shut. Glad I found this thread! That includes visitors then which would not be falsifying info. It's all very true, and very real. I immediately informed him that on the advice of counsel I was refusing the survey. "is your name blah blah blah?" this is the letter I sent the census bureau. --Lazarus. I've been through it. They aren't the enemy, so I don't act hostile towards them, but it still unnerves me how they got my cell phone number. So give them a call or send an e-mail and see if someone there can help stop the phone calls. My blood pressure is through the roof right now after reading this survey. We got our second ACS in the mail along with a follow up postcard. About 40 phone calls to date, some leave messages while others hang up. Wow this there are so many ignorant people here! Who is there to police the police? That and the census has been used in the past to identify people of Japanese, German, and Italian descent. On the back of the ACS form it states: "Respondents are not required to respond to any information collection unless it displays a valid approval number from the Office of Management and Budget.". He stated I would receive no further calls from the census but the next contact would be from the Justice department. The small, everyday, humdrum, quietly approved bills they do each day are where the danger lies and more attention should be paid to those. An 'Opt-Out' Democracy By Terri Ann Lowenthal In March 2000, with the nation's crown jewel of civic activities in full swing, a certain candidate for president who would later call 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue home, famously told a reporter that he wasn't sure he would fill out the census "long form" if he received one. "Isn't that enough?" I'm so glad I read this. I gave them my name and not much more. I told them I was not responding, and as I shut the door and walked away she stood on the porch and rang the bell, and since then it's all gone down hill. I watched and saw that she was only there five minutes. The American Community Survey is an Orwellian overreach of federal powers that should be resisted by Americans. When I did return it, I left off my personal business. Do you think Cass Sunstein knowing how many people, of what age, have physical and emotional disabilities is for the benefit of your family? Avoiding them will not really be possible since we have a houseful of teenagers who will most likely keep answering the door. and even spells it. When someone asks my wages, my mortgage information, and what time and where I work, I see this as "seizing personal information." The census collectors or enumerators can ask for some sensitive and detailed information, such as salary or income. These people are trying to "do their jobs", but there are better ways to make a living, one that doesn't help enslave Americans even further with more "government help" and ultimately, taxation. The times they are a-changing. My sister and I are fuming over these forms. We had mailed the form back the day after we received it. On Monday, a worker left a letter at my door advising he would return again. "Um, I filled it out twice". The Census Bureau provides guidelines that prevent harassment or late night calls, although some ACS recipients have complained of getting several calls a day. How can I verify that a caller is a Census Bureau employee? You can't actually expect all of the decisions to be made accurately and take into account the needs at the consumer level based on a head county every 10 years. I started to take the survey and the more I saw the more upset I got. In a climate of identity theft, unscrupulous banking practices, private interest( I mean industry) running the Federal Reserve, Private "credit" companies like experian controlling human potential by keeping track of every citizen and their spending (and why would they care if they get your credit report wrong because just who is their client - not you, it's "businesses"). Received two survey forms, three letters and two visits at my door and awaiting a third based on a lovely letter I received yesterday announcing yet another visit. I don't believe the ACS should, or has the right, to require more. Bunch of whiners who think the world revolves around their little lives and have paranoid conspiracy theories from watching too much TV. To read more about a particular survey's purpose and significance, you can search the Census Bureau's list of surveys. The SS Admin does not care. You aren't getting mine! I am glad I am not the only one who tossed the thing in the garbage. of Justice. It is widely known that in a five-year span the Bureau lost at least 672 laptops. It has been done since 1790, and is mandated by the Constitution. I filled it out. . We said in Boyd v. U.S., 116 U. S. 616, 630, 6 Sup. Seriously, do I really have to answer and return the american community survey? It says it needs to know whether you have flush toilets or running water so they can manage . I did not receive the additional questionnaire. 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